MotoGP 0-200 mph in 10.93! As the speeds increase so does the distance advantage to the Ducati. The H2R is closest from 200-240 km/h, tailing the MotoGP bike by only 0.2 seconds and taking an impressive 1.70 seconds versus 1.51 seconds for the Ducati MotoGP bike. MotoGP 0-200mph. Dorna had made the engines smaller, but the MotoGP technicians just made them spin harder and eventually make more power. With 250 hp plus and no electronics, it would go one of three ways, spin, loop or acceleration killing modulation of the throttle. It’s the advanced MotoGP electronics that allow for the Desmo GP18 to faultlessly accelerate off the line. The mighty GP18 is ballistic, hitting 350 km/h from rest in 14.27 seconds, and has the power to hit the limiter in top at a giddy 368 km/h. Turning off the electronic assistance is not an option for MotoGP bikes, as. While the BMW S1000RR has its own electronics, such as traction and wheelie control and complimented with slightly different mapping for each gear, its systems, while advanced, are several generations behind, and less effective at. Mugello’s main straight is just over a kilometre long, (1141m) and at least 300 metres of its length is required to haul up 230kg of motorcycle, fuel and rider, braking from 350 km/h to 120 km/h in order to make San Donato, if you are not to faceplant the kitty litter that is. But in a championship where ECU software and hardware is the same for all, how exactly does a manufacturer gain an acceleration edge purely in terms of electronics? Will they be powered by engines as we know them, or will they be electric only, or perhaps a hybrid…? Here's … With smarter electronics the Kawasaki H2R could get a little closer to Ducat’s MotoGP bike as it could launch more effectively, but in reality the H2R would need an extra 40 horsepower at the wheels and some significant weight loss to even have a chance of matching any MotoGP bike let alone the Ducati, Andrea Iannone tops action packed Friday at Mugello, 2018 Australian Motorcycle Sales YTD | Off Road by Model, Motorcycle Sales Figures 2018 YTD | Road By Model, Motorcycle Sales Figures | First Half 2018 Sales Data, 2022 Suzuki Hayabusa full reveal, specifications and pricing, Wayne Maxwell breaks silence on ASBK ECU saga, A closer look at the MV police motorcycles in Italy, Indian revamp Chief line-up for 2022 model year, Lack of Aussie representation on WorldSBK grid continues in 2021, Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14R recalled for potential brake issue. Below are some top speeds recorded at different times comparing various bikes at Mugello, including a stock BMW S1000RR road bike. In the case of a standing start, you also have launch control. It’s a devastating display of straight line acceleration from Ducati’s MotoGP machine. Right from the introduction of the four-stroke era in the premier class back in 2002, top speeds have been increasing incrementally north of what the two-strokes could muster from their ferocious smaller capacity motors. their power is too much for even a world class rider to deftly control a launch without burning through a clutch in the process. The F1 car can make high speed corner due to high downfroce & the tyres have more surface area and hence more grip, and F1 is 2.4litre and motoGp bike is .5litre. There is even a YouTube video or two showing Dovi Acccelerate from 0 to 300 km/h, and 300-350, and its kindly been timed. The Honda NSR500 is a road racing motorcycle created by HRC (Honda Racing Corporation) and debuted in 1984 for the Grand Prix motorcycle racing's 500 cc class. De 0 à 100 km/h, ... son équivalent en Moto GP, a eu besoin de 1m24.312s en 2017 sur le même circuit. ", In another exchange with the media, Rossi said: "During last year Honda and Ducati put a lot of money and a lot of people to work around the electronics. For the 2007 season Dorna slowed the bikes down by introducing new regulations that saw engines shrunk from 990 cc to 800 cc. Even Kawasaki’s ballistic Supercharged H2R is not a match for the Desmosedici GP18. I hope that after Barcelona we can try something more important [with the electronics].”. Drinks too much coffee, is dying for a smoke, actually is the local crazy cat lady, is a bit dyslexic, and liable to throwing hissy-fits. There are no actual claimed acceleration numbers for MotoGP bikes, nor has anyone recently tested one at the strip and told the tale. It’s exciting that the bikes we can buy now from the dealership are faster than factory WSBK’s from 20 years ago, and nudging at the straight line performance of the two-stroke Grand Prix machines from the same era. Even by today’s standards the 2008 kawaski ZX-10R is still extremely fast and was, at the time, the fastest accelerating litre class motorcycle until the BMW S1000RR came along and spoiled its party. Andrea Dovizioso recently set a new MotoGP maximum speed record at Mugello when he clocked an eye watering 356.5 km/h during the race on the Factory Ducati. Throttles operated by the new EVO 2 TCF (Throttle Control & Feedback) system, Öhlins inverted 48mm front fork and Öhlins rear shock absorber, adjustable for preload, new factory evolution damping system, Magneti Marelli ECU programmed with Dorna Unified Software, Brembo, two 340mm carbon front discs with four-piston callipers. The final result is quite impressive when we look at the numbers. The idea was a smaller motor would have less potential to make the kind of power that would propel a motorcycle and rider to the speeds we had seen with the 990 cc machines. If you junked the road gear, bolted a full system and PC5 you’d be not far off or even match an old school Grand Prix two-stroke in terms of straight line get up and go! When hooking gears on any modern litre bike, it’s pretty hard to imagine something overtaking you. Even for those of us that have ridden the latest ‘claimed’ 200 hp superbikes, and are familiar to their insane turn of speed, it’s still hard to get your head around 356 km/h and then having to hit the picks for the next turn! "All the Ducatis are better in acceleration… It’s a sobering fact, that any of the current litre sport bikes straight from the showroom are all faster in a straight line than megabuck factory Superbikes from only 20 years ago. Equally impressive is that your S1000RR, stock at Mugello, in the right hands would hit an almost real 300 km/h before needing to haul up for San Donato. Here’s a true story; A few years back while residing in Italy, I was aboard my stock 2002 Yamaha YZF-R1 and was having a spirited play with a local lad on his 2008 Kawasaki ZX-10R. That’s only 20 km/h off the fastest GP500 of the two-stroke era. The slowest bike at Mugello this year hit 339 km/h, that is still some 20 km/h up on the fastest two-strokes!! The domination of the MotoGP bike is convincing throughout, though the chasing BMW rider will still have it within sight up until around 200 km/h, where the Desmo is around 50 metres in front, and already accelerating through 240 km/h. And Kevin Cameron explains what it has to do with the Harley-Davidson XR750. If so please comment below. To date, road bike electronic assists are more effective on track and while powering from one corner to the next. It’s no surprise that the Desmocedici GP18 takes the lead after 30 km/h and clears off from that point forward. "You cannot calculate everything at home because when you come to a real race track and have some dust on the surface, a specific temperature, a certain type of tyre and so on.". The H2R needs around 16.65 seconds to hit 320 km/h from rest while the the Ducati clocks the same 320 km/h in under 11 seconds. In other words, while the way the ECU works (through calculations, strategies and functions) is the same for all, the thousands of numbers that decide 'if this happens, do that' are programmed into the system by each manufacturer, to suit each bike. Aleix Espargaro remains convinced the 2020 Aprilia RS-GP is a 'very good' bike, comparable with the Suzuki and KTM at Misano this weekend, but with one big exception; the acceleration of the engine. Impressive. "The same goes sometimes with ABS in road cars, which is acting way more often than you would expect. The ZX-10R went past me just as I hooked third, then by the time I was in top he was at least 100 metres or more ahead of me. Despite this, it is not hard to deduce how one would accelerate from zero to flat-out. The Pit Stop: Should Mercedes replace Bottas with Russell for F1 2021. MotoGP Bike Acceleration Analysis MotoGP 0-300 km/h in 9.72! Besting the previous record of 354.9 km/h set in 2016, also at the Italian circuit. Liquid-cooled, 90° V4, four-stroke, evo desmodromic DOHC, four valves per cylinder, Ducati Seamless Transmission (DST_EVO). We’ll just need to sprinkle the former with a little science – by putting some numbers through the MCNews.com.au Supercomputer and hopefully, it’ll vomit out some realistic numbers which we’ll plot against an Alpha road bike for some interesting comparison. The BMW S1000RR is arguably the fastest accelerating production litre bike to date but how does it stack up against the fastest MotoGP Bike? Chain final drive, Indirect electronic injection, four throttle bodies with injectors above and below the butterfly valves. Et moto GP surment plus rapide de 0-200 et 0-300 car bcoup – lourd et une GP TURBO mais interdit car s’envolerai à plus de 400 km/h ? WATCH: Carlos Sainz turns in his first F1 laps for Ferrari, VIDEO: Who were the top 10 drivers of the 2020 F1 season? Maybe Yamaha not enough. Valentino Rossi says the Yamaha MotoGP bike's acceleration deficit is no longer 'embarrassing', as it was during last year's Aragon Grand Prix. "I would say a big part is calculation and small part trial-and-error," Cecchinelli replied. While the BMW S1000RR has its own electronics, such as traction and wheelie control and complimented with slightly different mapping for each gear, its systems, while advanced, are several generations behind, and less effective at, converting energy into forward motion compared to a fully fledged MotoGP bike. At this stage of development with road bike electronic assistance, to launch consistently well, often the traction control and anti wheelie are turned off in the hands of the most skilled riders. At around 180kph, the electronics take full control in the F1 car, while MotoGP riders can still work the throttle. Originally from London, UK. After the Monday test, he added: “We found something for the acceleration, but it was just a first step. To be fair to the little two-strokes, modern electronics and tyres would’ve seen them reach slightly higher speeds at Mugello, as translating their brutal power delivery in to forward momentum was uniquely challenging, and a completely analog affair totally reliant on clever carb/power-valve tweaking and a delicately skillful hand. The BMW S1000RR hits 300 km/h in around 19 seconds and 1104 meters, the Ducati has already hit its limiter at 368 km/h, and is a whopping 256 metres in front. Just recently though Danilo Petrucci mentioned that his Pramac Ducati is making 280 hp! (Even considering that the BMW is less powerful than the MotoGP machine). "Normally what all the manufacturers do is they develop a sort of interface tool - in-between their calculations and the calibration tool we give - which is easier for them to use and generate a calibration in the software language," Cecchinelli explained. "Let's assume the calibration of the wheelie control is too restrictive - so that it cuts before the bike even wheelies, or cuts when the wheelie is not a problem - then you are not accelerating enough. So there is only about 850 metres of useful tarmac, give or take, to go from the last corner (Bucine), where GP bikes apex at 100 km/h, before cracking 350 km/h in well under a kilometre. "All the Ducatis are better in acceleration, because they are more in front compared to us in the electronics," the Italian said in February. MotoGP bike vs Kawsaki H2R. Une course insolite entre une F1, une moto GP et une V8 Supercar Par la rédaction le 20 octobre 2014 à 11:58 À lire plus tard Sauvegardé Suivre #insolite #insolite Suivi The total or partial reproduction of text, photographs or illustrations is not permitted in any form. It was a clear example of what 5 years of engine development can do. Adding to the complication is that many of the calibration numbers need to be changed from circuit to circuit. Faultless clutch-less gear changes ensued one by one until I was in top, chin on the tank while I IOMTT’d it up in Regione Di Lombardia. Its 200-300 km/h time of 4.33 is only 1.4 slower than it’s 100-200 km/h time. Le Grand Prix d'Autriche en 10 moments historiques. Today marks the end of the V-Twin superbike era, with Ducati announcing its 2018 Panigale will run a counter-rotating 90-degree V4 engine. I was leading and fast in my own head while we were enjoying some nice long smooth sweepers. Like F1, MotoGP machinery can accelerate from 0-100 km/h in around 2.6 seconds but it takes the bikes quite a bit longer to reach 300 km/h - … There was a particularly nice sweeper that opened up into a long straight, and in a country where they really do not care how fast you ride, it would have been rude not to, so in second gear as it opened up, I nailed it through the box. The Italian, who was Vice Director General of Ducati Corse from 2006 to 2010 before accepting his current role, told Crash.net: "The so-called 'chassis control strategies' - traction control, wheelie control - all share the same functioning mode. Single stainless steel rear disc with two-piston calliper. Remember… thing is, I was not alone, there was a fella on a newerer and shinierer piece of metal and plastic, and he had more power horses than me, probably 30 odd more at the wheels. Part 1. A recent MotoGP video I watched showed some of the differences between Moto3, Moto2, and MotoGP bikes. For example, in the braking portion of Mugello's turn 1, Brembo recorded a case in which braking brought a bike from 355 km/h to 90 km/h in only 5.2 seconds, and in less than 300 m! "That request may of course be '0', if you are under the limit of the bike. With smarter electronics the Kawasaki H2R could get a little closer to Ducat’s MotoGP bike as it could launch more effectively, but in reality the H2R would need an extra 40 horsepower at the wheels and some significant weight loss to even have a chance of matching any MotoGP bike let alone the Ducati. A fire in March 2019 involving recharging batteries destroyed the special facility and the race machines at Circuito de Jerez, Spain. When the difference between acceleration of two machines is literally put into perspective, it’s fascinating and humbling at the same time. Dani Pedrosa actually broke the Ducati top speed stranglehold in the 800 cc era after the diminutive Spaniard clocked 349.3 km/h at Mugello in 2009, setting a new outright speed record at the time. At this stage of development with road bike electronic assistance, to launch consistently well, often the traction control and anti wheelie are turned off in the hands of the most skilled riders. Where the S1000RR completes the quarter mile in just under ten seconds at a terminal velocity of around 250 km/h, the Ducati has increased its velocity advantage by an additional 20 km/h, stretching the advantage to almost 60 km/h as it approaches 310 km/h. After this point the MotoGP bike really gaps the S1000RR convincingly. ... Accélération. "This is common with traction control in road cars. Eddie Lawson gave Cagiva its debut victory on a drying track in the 1991 Hungarian Grand Prix.Lawson left Cagiva before he retired from racing, but other stars were drawn to the Italian team: Randy Mamola, Mat Mladin and Doug Chandler also rode the bike at one stage or another in their careers. MotoGP is significantly faster than the Moto2 and Moto3 classes that have top speeds exceeding 295km/h and 245km/h respectively. Since MotoGP winter testing, Valentino Rossi has repeatedly emphasised the need for Yamaha to improve acceleration via the electronics. During last weekend's struggles at the slippery Spanish MotoGP, Rossi again described the M1's problems as 25% mechanical and 75% electronics. For 2012 we were back to litre MotoGP bikes, whether that be for safety, or MotoGP wanting to relate a little more to the manufacturers production superbikes, in terms of displacement and development hand-me-down purposes. Horse Power affects the suspensio… Nonetheless, we know that these machines make enormous power that is only made useful and effective with the incremental advancement of electronics. The Ducati MotoGP bike only needs 465 metres to reach 300 km/h while the S1000RR needs 1104 metres. Even Kawasaki’s ballistic Supercharged H2R is not a match for the Desmosedici GP18. Motogp trumps f1 at 0 200kph. The H2R need 935 metres to hit 320 km/h while the Ducati almost cuts the distance in half, requiring only 560 metres. You get the feeling you could brake better without it, which is not generally true! Without electronics making power usable MotoGP bikes would likely be faster with a solid 200 hp or so of usable horses. Let’s take a look at a track they both shared, such as COTA (Circuit of the Americas, Austin, Texas) The fastest lap by a F1 car (Lewis Hamilton, 2018 F1 GP) is 1′ 32.237. You have to work on the black box [ECU].". 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"Everybody is developing their own proprietary interface that goes 'upstream' of the calibration tool. The fastest of the 800 cc bikes were said to be making their peak power around 20,000 rpm. The difference is in aero. No Red Bull for Tech3 KTM bikes in 2021 | They still have wings though….
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